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2006-07-07 11:06:20 - Sergey
tom,

Please, show an example of "totally unfair" arbitration. I hesitate - you can't show one.

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2006-06-17 11:48:36 -
They do not take 40% fees, but the true number is 15%.

However, I have to agree that their arbitration is totally unfair and biased towards the buyers, of which most are from the US.

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2006-06-17 09:24:26 -
I have been a buyer on RAC for more than 3 years. I have been thru a few of these dispute which I had won, simply because the coder didn't deliver what was promised. Period.

The basis of RAC is upkeeping of what is promised by the coders in return of what is expected by the buyers. If somehow this is not met, then the buyer has every right not to release payment.

My advise to coders is to always ask specifically what is required, and not assumed.

As for this case of marketing research report, it is in my opinion the fault of the 'coder' for not firstly stating up front how the research will be conducted.

All research has processes and methods which are documented, so that the results can be verified.

Dear Amir, if you lost money. I think you deserve it. Stop whining and putting your country men to shame.

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2006-06-16 17:24:31 -
Greetings All,

Rentacoder is a rip-off. I have used it a couple of times and lost alot of money and recieved ABOLUSTLY nothing.

Someone was working on a project, to help him feel more safer, I pay him some money to start.

No after a while he decides to stop, rentacoder won't give me the money I gave him (I understand if they can't, but they could easily shut her off tell she pays up), but no I lose the money. I was going to make a chargeback to rentacoder but decided hay, maybe I might use the account some time later.

there are many other good freelancer websites out there.

later,

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2006-06-16 15:21:25 - Eric
I've used RentACoder for years and had nothing but positive experiences, even in the single arbitration I had for missing a deadline.

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2006-06-16 15:17:03 -
I think it is very irresponsible for your website, www.crime-research.org, for publishing vague, non-specific, generalized allegations against any individual or organization without properly investigting. It is bad journalism.

RentACoder's arbiration process is as fair as it could be. Coders very commonly loose arbitration for various reasons including not completing job at all, not meeting established deadlines decided in writing ahead of time, providing code that "does not do exactly what the buyer had specified", providing third party non-licensed and non-royalty free ActiveX and other controls in place of their own work, etc, etc WITH ADDITIONAL COST of licesing, royalty and lack of code for those controls. Many of them take projects that they do not even understand and waste buyers time and resources by back and forth communication and code testing using buyer as a guinea pig of their own experiments which can be so off the track. This has happened to me personally tyring to get USB communications project done!

RentACoder on ther other hand would actually benefit by siding with the coder than with the buyer because it would be very quick for them to make money. Buyer would be obliged to pay and RentACoder would get to keep their commision as well as it would enormously reduced thier "COST OF ARBITRATION". It costs RentACoder "RESOURCES" to get all the jobs posted, allow intercommuncation and then ARBITRATE and after all that COLLECT NOTHING! I feel sorry for them as well as the buyer whose time and resources was wasted and now his/her project is further delayed. That is COSTLY in itself.

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2006-06-16 14:56:24 - Someone
I am both a coder(rank < 2000) and a buyer at rentacoder. i found the arbiteration quite fair.

Long live RAC

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2006-06-16 14:43:06 -
This is simply not true in my case. I had a coder who submitted unoriginal works. In the project description I clearly stated I needed original works for SEO purposes, the coder even replied that he understood what I was asking for. The coder was days late in delivering the articles, then when he finally did he basically copied stuff from the web. RAC was investigated the matter fully getting descriptions from both me and the coder, until the coder admitted to the unoriginal works (how could they lie, I could provide proof thanks to Google).

In most cases things never need to go to arbitration and everything works out great. When they do RAC investigates the matter fully. It appears articles like the one above are written by coders who probably are not very honest in the first place.

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2006-06-10 14:14:40 - Sergey
Mr. Anon,

"This is the case even if the coder has delivered nothing at all at the deadline."

You can't show examples (links) to prove your point of view because your post based on your hallucinations only.

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2006-05-12 07:32:54 - Anon
Actually Rentacoder does not preferentially act against coders but rather, it acts to maximize its own profits. So if you, as a new buyer, enter arbitration against a high-price coder who is highly rated you will almost certainly lose. This is the case even if the coder has delivered nothing at all at the deadline.

This makes sense from Rentacoder's point of view as they do not want top rated coders leving the site with their clients.

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2006-05-11 17:49:24 -
I think the fraud buyers are actually competitors of RAC, there are a number of freelance websites, in my case I had later found out that the fraud buyer was from SL, so he came at RAC, he got his work and he never paid me.

Also, There are some groups of hackers who are continuously attacking RAC, I would suggest Ian to keep his eyes open and to find out who is against and who is with RAC, also RAC needs to make some corrections in there terms and policies for both buyers and sellers.

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2006-04-14 12:24:49 -
Hello Yall,

im Dreff, A HVAC Engineer from the philippines, and registered coder (AutoCAD) for Rentacoder.com. I am posting this message in defense of my client Mr.Terence Brown.

In Testimony to his authenticity as a buyer and not as a fraud. I have completed two HVAC design for Mr Terence, or buyer....Safrica2 and so far I have been paid in full, and even received a bonus from Terence... So if Terence is a Fraud, how come I got the money in cash via Western Union and get to spend it on a night out havin lotsa booze and chiks...?

Though I have noticed Terence to ask a few couple of questions from time to time regarding the project, but hey thats normal, the guy just wants to get his moneys worth right, hes just makin sure, b4 he pays-out yah know.

In conclusion, I can only say...... Hey Boss Terence your the MAN yeah....! Hope to do some more business with you ayt. Thanks.


Sincerely,

Dreff

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2006-04-09 17:45:17 -
I have had the opposite problem. I have used coders form Viet Nam and eastern block countries that have promised and nevered delivered. I made the mistake of paying "outside" the secure sites and sending Western Union to have coders give me junk and then never respond again.

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2006-04-07 17:02:06 -
This is true that RAC charges become far more than15% at the end! Due to only one choice of western union, and 15% of rac deduction, what amount is left is just about 65%...believe it or not!

Pakistani coders are cheated and RAC is a big devil! This is a fact which can be seen when you come one to one with arbitrations and SO-CALLED Facilitators. They do give more importance to buyers, NO DOUBT about that! The only thing good about RAC is, it pays you if luckily you come across a good buyer who doesnt want to enjoy months months long arbitrations, just to let you waiting for your hard work being earned!

And i dont understand what is wrong with Mr Zeeshan Arshad.. that he could advise amir to leave his 85 USD. Bhai why leave even 1 USD when you worked for it? WHY ? Is it HARAM KE KAMAI or what, that you are advising him to forget it and let go? Whats so wrong with your senses? when you'd get into these in-house arbitrations yourself, then you will very well know what you should and should Not fight for! Better luck!

RAC is just a place of chances. I happened to get very good chances in the beginning, but sooner than any expectations, RAC terminated my account...eating up more than 700 USD..!!Now Mr Zeeshan might advise me to give up and forget these 700 USD as he advised Mr Amir...but Mr Zeeshan...i pray that you do get alarmed before you get into arbitrations..or once you get into it... you will better know what actually RAC is all about! So, better keep your golden advises with yourself!

Better Luck for all RAC and IAN servants!..

PS: and yes, Mr ian was very excited to start a website for saving interests of Pakistani coders...Do you people remember? something www.pakcoders.com.pk.... Where has it all went? Where are mr Ian's heartly efforts to save pakistani interests now ? Are they all gone? Mr Ian and This RAC philosophy is just "throw a bone to asian dogs, and let them lick our feet for a few cents" THATS ALL!

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2005-12-20 06:39:57 -
someone is impersonating me here. so beware.

amir

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