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2004-04-22 00:10:48 - LeGioN
Just wanted to mention, regardless of the right or wrong of the discussion, that not buying software but using warez because it is too expensive is _the_ most stupid excuse. The less software is bought, the more the prices will go up. The programmers have to feed their families too. If you can't cough up the dough, don't use the software.
Otherwise, don't be a bitch and simply admit you use warez. Just don't use the ever so exploited excuse about the "big multi-millionairre industries" having evil schemes etc. That is just marketing. And the base of all economics is that if you don't buy, they won't make money, they staff is kicked out, can't buy anything from your company, you'll be kicked out as well.
2004-03-22 23:39:46 - Lorn
Arg.
Refreshing to see if any replies is apparently a no-no :)
2004-03-22 23:39:12 -
hrm. My main point was they were using incorrect terminology.
And although I see your points, I doubt other programmers who spend hundreds of hours working on a project like the idea of it being used without any compensation being given. I have no problem with someone trying out a project I have done, as long as they do pay if they choose to continue using it.
In this case, we are talking about servers hosting 38 terabytes of software. They are obviously not simply evaluating software. Hope they get the book thrown at them :)
Also, while big software publishers do cry about lost percentiles of income, keep in mind that for the little guys, that lost income often means a project doesn't get updated or worked on since they need an other job to support themselves :)
2004-03-22 23:38:56 -
hrm. My main point was they were using incorrect terminology.
And although I see your points, I doubt other programmers who spend hundreds of hours working on a project like the idea of it being used without any compensation being given. I have no problem with someone trying out a project I have done, as long as they do pay if they choose to continue using it.
In this case, we are talking about servers hosting 38 terabytes of software. They are obviously not simply evaluating software. Hope they get the book thrown at them :)
Also, while big software publishers do cry about lost percentiles of income, keep in mind that for the little guys, that lost income often means a project doesn't get updated or worked on since they need an other job to support themselves :)
2004-03-22 23:24:08 -
hrm. My main point was they were using incorrect terminology.
And although I see your points, I doubt other programmers who spend hundreds of hours working on a project like the idea of it being used without any compensation being given. I have no problem with someone trying out a project I have done, as long as they do pay if they choose to continue using it.
In this case, we are talking about servers hosting 38 terabytes of software. They are obviously not simply evaluating software. Hope they get the book thrown at them :)
Also, while big software publishers do cry about lost percentiles of income, keep in mind that for the little guys, that lost income often means a project doesn't get updated or worked on since they need an other job to support themselves :)
2004-03-22 21:05:36 -
Lorn, you mean you don't have one single peice of pirated software? Not even a copy of an Amiga game from 12 years ago?
I'll praise warez. Why? Because when I grab a demo/trial for a title, it is never enough for me to "fall in love" with the game, or app.
I have never decided to buy anything based on a demo or trial copy. I have, however, bought MANY titles after playing thru a warez copy. Half Life, UT, UT2004, MOH:AA,THief, Morrowind, etc, etc, etc... These were all gonna be non-purchases until I played them thru.
Yep, the argument "I would never have bought these anyway.", does seem weak, but it is, after all true.
Oh, and guess what? I didn't keep the titles, but I did however back up my copy AFTER I bought it.
2004-03-22 20:59:04 -
These big multi-millionairre industries always on and on about losing all this money. My sposed to feel sorry for em? No. And for the most part, all these numbers where they say they are losing millions and millions of money thru pirating, it's a crack of shit.
People pirate coz they can't afford to pay for this overpriced crap saturating the market. People who can afford it, do but it. I hope greed wipes out the human race. All we are is maggots on the planet. Earth is better off without us.
2004-03-22 20:45:02 -
Lorn, you mean you don't have one single peice of pirated software? Not even a copy of an Amiga game from 12 years ago?
I'll praise warez. Why? Because when I grab a demo/trial for a title, it is never enough for me to "fall in love" with the game, or app.
I have never decided to buy anything based on a demo or trial copy. I have, however, bought MANY titles after playing thru a warez copy. Half Life, UT, UT2004, MOH:AA,THief, Morrowind, etc, etc, etc... These were all gonna be non-purchases until I played them thru.
Yep, the argument "I would never have bought these anyway.", does seem weak, but it is, after all true.
Oh, and guess what? I didn't keep the titles, but I did however back up my copy AFTER I bought it.
2004-03-22 19:44:17 -
These individuals were not hackers. They were thieves. Please understand that the terms you are using are incorrect. Hackers are individuals who like to learn, and use that knowledge to make further discoveries, usually related to computers. Having said that, someone who can take apart a 1971 B210 and put it back together again is an automotive hacker. If someone were to steal that B210, they would be thieves...same as the people you are talking about in your article.
Good news to hear though. :)
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